Curse investigation - A summary

[Doji Yuma]

A OOC thread to put in one place all pieces of information acquired IC, in the hope it will make D3.2 smoother (or not).

Please complete with the information you've managed to gather, and separate facts and assumptions.

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Hitomi is an illegitimate child of Crab and Crane ancestry who died in the shipwreck of the Azure Orchid about one century ago (source).

Hida Gusari and Doji Bujeihime knew each other and kept on their person matching figurines (source).

Unless there are other magical figurines going around, one of this figurine appears to have been retrieved by Daidoji Kio on D2 and to still be in possession by D4 (sources: 1, 2, 3).

[Ichiro Taiki]

The hundred-eyed monster that killed the fisherman at night and almost sent Taiki back to the wheel on D3.0 is actually a creature from Ningen-do, possibly even an ancient Ningyo pet. It naturally lives in underground caves, and seems to have been stirred up by other supernatural events - which possibly refers to the curse itself. If we can solve the other problems with the storms and the seas, it will likely return to its natural habitat, but if this continues more such monsters may come crawling out of the depths.

Source - Thanks to Hiruma Roger once again

Also as a side note - the 'problems with the storms and the seas' seem to me to suggest the treacherous surf may also be caused by the curse. Maybe someone has found more compelling evidence of this.

[Tsuruchi Shouji]

Minari may have come across the figure of Hida Gusari.

I'll link the thread later, but unbeknownst to the Captain it is on the Sea Fox if so.

[Asahina Sanaharu]

Megapost on what I know.

Bujeihime, Gusari and Hitomi
A lot of information on this tale comes from three sources: An old Crane tale (1), its Crab version (2) and the records of the Azure Orchid (3)

Hitomi is a child out of wedlock from a Crane and a Crab. In the arrangements for what to do with this child, it was accepted for her to be sent to the Hida. The Crane and Hitomi boarded on the ship. According to the Crane telling, the ship sank and the two of them died (1). However, according to the records of the Azure Orchid, the ship was stormed by Crab soldiers to kill Doji Bujeihime but she escaped to the shore to have her famous duel with Hida Gusari (2)(3).

Since Hitomi asks why his daddy killed her (4), it is safe to assume that she is the child of a Crab who stormed the ship. There is nothing that proves her parents are Bujeihime and Gusari, but it is heavily implied, since Bujeihime was traveling on the ship when it sank when the Doji from the tale also was, and Hitomi's father killed her. Hida Gusari and Bujeihime were closer to each other (described as friends or lovers) (5).

We have paintings of the two (6). One of the figurines probably was found by Minari (7), the other by Kio (as on Yuma's post).

The Curse
In the beach, there are ghostly armies led by a Crab and Crane bushi, believed to be Gusari and Bujeihime (8). The time looping happened before, and only stopped when a child died. Probably Hitomi calls for sacrifices from the lineage of Gusari and Bujeihime periodically, so this curse should be happening for at least a hundred years.

Taiki said that the dog monster is not related to the curse, it is just here because the seas were stirred.

The Kuni said that there must be an object that is linking the spirit to this realm. The object must be destroyed in order to set the spirit free (and end the curse forever). (9). This object may either be the two figurines (5) or paintings of the two (6).

But there is also a theory that says that the object and the spirit need to be reunited before it is free (same topic).

One of those is probably like to draw combat ((10)). I would like to meet Gusari and Bujeihime first before taking decisions. Either we try to reunite the three ghosts (peaceful resolution to the curse) or break the objects that are making the three stay on this realm. I want to try to reunite them first. We may convince either of them on the suffering of the child. But Gusari seems to be the pragmatic sort, so maybe we can argue that it is necessary for the war to end, and the war is taking resources that could be used on the wall.

[Toritaka Hanatsuko]

The curse duration or loop may be 4 days.
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This is confirmed by Aji
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The spirit of Bugeihime may be around the town.
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[Tsuruchi Shouji]

I think there are three figurines.

But I could be wrong there.

[Asahina Sanaharu]

I think there are three figurines.

But I could be wrong there.

Red herring, I think. "Doji Hitomi" is what Kio named the figurine of a crane swordsman. I think it is Bujeihime's.

[Tsuruchi Shouji]

Well I believe the ghosts are tied to the figures locations

Gusari is on the Sea Fox because his figure is at the Sea Fox.

Hitomi is all up in Crane Town because her figure is there.

Bujeihime is at the well, because her figure is in it.

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But I could be very wrong. >.>

Which seems was the case

[Otomo Saisei]

Sasei had visions of being both Hitomi and Hida Gusari. Then, he learns about the figures and has a plan to try detect where the toys are.

[Fuzake Hifumi]

Day 3 Divination:

The sticks say that she will walk the same road many times.

Day 4 Afternoon Divination

The signs seem to imply that the sea will call its children home.

Day 4 EN Divination

"Suffering is endless, end the the schism," is what the signs read.

[Toritaka Hanatsuko]

if we are to break the curse it should be today RL

[Tsuruchi Shouji]

I think saisei and sanaharu have come to my ship looking for Gusari' statue. I assume one of them will get it.

Other then that I'm pretty busy with imperial Shenanigans day 5, so this one is mostly on others. Unless im super needed.

[Asahina Sanaharu]

How do you intend on breaking the curse? I would like to interact with the ghosts and trying to get them to pacify Hitomi
Gusari's figurine should attract Bujeihime, Bujeihime's should attract Gusari

If this is not possible, dispelling them both and convincing Hitomi they are not on this realm? Maybe Hitomi is seeking to drag a specific person to the sea instead of everyone?

[Toritaka Hanatsuko]

Well, I hope it is not me but then again... she was pretty specific to me, here. So there is a probability that I am to go down. As for lifting the curse, a reunión with those three should be the best, Hitomi, Bujeihime and Gusari and hope they are her parents.